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Pat
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posted February 22, 2002 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat   Click Here to Email Pat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am 34 years old and have been suffering from x-ichthyosis from the day I was born.

During my child-hood the skin-disorder was very severe. Other people could clearly see that my skin was far from normal. When the itching got really bad, my mom usually put me in a sea-salt/oil-bath mix for 40 minutes every week so that the scales could be rubbed off with a terra-cotta stone. After each bath or shower I applied thick layers of moisterizing cream and lotion.

I have tried several treatments to reduce the ichthyosis such as UV-treatment, reflex zone therapy of the feet, sea-salt baths, different oils and creams. Nothing of these really helped much.

At the age of 16, I followed a diet-plan by an Austrian homeopathist. Following his diet, I had to avoid sweet, heavily spiced (chili,pepper,mustard) salted or acid (vinegar,lemon) food as well as meat, drinks containing coffein. Pulses such as lentils and beans had to be avoided as well as fatty food. In addition, I was given a recipe of a herbal tea mix (I have to look for the receipe) of which I had to drink 1 1/2 liter per day at the minimum.

I followed this diet 7 months (till I was fed up) and my skin got better and better. In fact, I had never had a smoother skin before. The scales were nearly fully gone. To my surprise, after stopping the diet and going back to a more ordinary way of eating, my skin remained smoother and did not develop as much scaling as before. Nowadays, anyone not knowing it wouldn't notice my ichthyosis anymore.

Anyone has made experience with another or a similar diet?


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Laura Phillips
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posted February 23, 2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura Phillips   Click Here to Email Laura Phillips     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pat,

I do not have any experience with a diet/homeopathic remedy such as the one you used. However, I'd be very interested in hearing more.

If you come across any more details (about the doctor, the tea, etc) in your records, I'd love to hear about it. Homeopathic remedies haven't been nearly as popular in the US as they have been in Europe. I think we're a bit behind the times in that area.

Laura

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Danusia
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posted February 23, 2002 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danusia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I, personally, have never heard of diet making any difference with a skin condition of any kind. However, I have found that my skin has changed a lot over the years ( I have vulgaris). When I was in my 20s and early 30s it was at its best, so much so that it seemed nearly normal. Could it be that your skin just naturally got better through these years?

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Sofie
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posted February 24, 2002 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sofie   Click Here to Email Sofie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pat

Very interesting to hear about your diet. I think I have heard similar things before though concerning psoriasis. However, I am glad to hear that your condition got so much better even after you have stopped your diet. As Laura said, it would be interesting to get more information.

I noticed that you are from Switzerland - I am as well. It would be interesting for me to hear from you about doctors and experiences you had with them.

Best wishes, Sofie

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Pat
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posted February 26, 2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat   Click Here to Email Pat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again,

The diet and herbal tea recipe I mentioned in the above message was written by the Austrian Maria Treben and can be found in the book
"Health through God's Pharmacy" published in various Countries and languages. I myself have the German version but I don't really know the English words for most of the herbs in order to publish it here on the board.

It is true, Sofie, that originally, this diet was intended for people suffering from Psoriasis. However, this treatment helped me and it could as well help others with Ichthyosis.

Danusia, my skin got much better during the seven months of the diet and only lightly deteriorated ever since. Winters and cold weather make it worse, summers and the sun better. Most probably I will do the diet again in near futur to see if it still makes a difference.

The food that should be avoided:

Pork meat, vinegar, cider, lemon, oranges, grapefruits, most berries and their juices, raw apples, coffee, chocolate, cacao, honey from the bee, processed and smoked fish, tinned and processed meat, pulses, alcoholic beverages of any kind.

Patrick


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sonia
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posted February 28, 2002 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sonia   Click Here to Email sonia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Patrick,
I read your post with great interest. My daughter Aiesha has had homeopathic treatment (liver detox and cleanser) but I don't think that its really had any effect. Also, she doesn't eat (or has never eaten) any of the foods you list so I don't thinks she's affected much but diet. However, it now seems that the main factor for her is the weather. If its windy or too hot, her skin will crack but not like it used to and her recovery is also faster.

Best regards,

Sonia

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Keith Charsha
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posted March 01, 2002 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keith Charsha   Click Here to Email Keith Charsha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick,
I have one simple question for you. I have read both of your posts and taken note of all the foods, fruit, spices etc. that you should not eat. My question is, what can you eat? Or should I say what did you eat? Perhaps you could give us an example of what a diet without all that stuff would consist of? Also, I noticed that alot of fruit was excluded in that diet, can you take vitamins without effecting the diet? hope you can answer this for me, I know I'll never have enough time to read the book you mentioned, thanks.
Keith.

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Pat
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posted March 02, 2002 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat   Click Here to Email Pat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Keith & Sonia

First of all, I would like to point out that the diet alone might not help reduce the scaling. Both the diet as well as the herbal tea-mix is needed to possibly reduce the ichthyosis.

I ate lots of raw and cooked vegetables, salads with a yoghourt-dressing (no vinegar or lemon), poultry and veal, raw and cooked fish, pasta, potatoes, rice, bread. I tried to avoid as much of the sweet stuff as well as deep-fried food as possible.

In Restaurants, I always asked how the food was prepared and what ingredients used.

You don't have to do this all your life. It might help you already after 3-4 months. People following this treatment could later eat more or less normal again but kept on drinking the tea on a regular basis.

Patrick

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Laura Phillips
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posted March 02, 2002 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura Phillips   Click Here to Email Laura Phillips     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering the same thing at first - what could you eat Thanks for clarifying. From what little I know about homeopathic remedies, I think you're right Pat - taking the tea in addition to the diet changes would be critical to the results (according to the homeopathic model).

It intrigues me very much, and doesn't surprise me that it worked for you.

Speaking of diet changes: I've recently started drinking a lot of water (really, the amount of water that's suggested for everyone). Much to my surprise (and maybe it's just coincidence), my skin has been in great shape.

Regards,
Laura

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pauline5
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posted March 05, 2002 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauline5   Click Here to Email pauline5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laura,

Like you I have also discovered that water is wonderful for my whole body. I am less dry and peely. It is amazing how much less skin I am shedding around the house, saving me heaps of vaccuming.

Pauline.

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Pat
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posted March 06, 2002 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat   Click Here to Email Pat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point, Laura.

I think we mainly underestimate the importance of the amount of water our body needs. The daily recommended amount of 1 1/2 to 2 liters of water cannot be substituted by any other liquid or food containing liquid. Many other drinks such as coffee, black tea, coke or alcoholic beverages are actually drying our body out instead of replenish it.

As our skin is drier than a healthy one, we might even need to top the recommended amount...

[This message has been edited by Pat (edited March 06, 2002).]

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Laura Phillips
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posted March 14, 2002 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura Phillips   Click Here to Email Laura Phillips     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another update: I've continued to drink copious amounts of water everyday (I need to put the tiniest amount of fruit juice in the water to flavor it just a tad) and my skin has continued to get better and better. So I'm now convinced that there IS a link between my skin's recent improvement and the increase in my water intake.

Sounds like a small and stupid thing, but I really think it's been helping me dramatically lately.

Laura

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topsi
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posted January 21, 2003 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for topsi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am using this tea therapy for 2 months and a half and I see it is working. My skin is in much better condition as it used to be during cold winter time. I eat everything I used to, even spicy food (i don't diet )
Names of herbs are in latin.

Tea Mixture:
Quercus robur 10g (oak bark)
Filipendula ulmaria 40g
Juglans cineraria 20g (walnut inner husk)
Urtica dioica 50g (nettle)
Veronica officinalis 30g (speedwell)
Calendula officinalis 30g
Salix spp. 30g (willow bark)
Fumaria officinalis 20g
Achillea millefolium 20g
Chelidonium majus 30g (must be used with CAUTION, it is POISONOUS)

Recipe is simple: 1 full tea spoon/1 cup, soak for 3 minutes. You must drink 1.5 - 2.0 liters per day in draughts.

I however use a little modified recipe. Since I didn't find poisonous Chelidonium Majus herb anywhere in stores I just drink tea without it.

I did try drinking regular tea for a week, when I ran out of stock. My skin condition got worse, so there is something to this tea mixture.

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Luciana
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posted July 28, 2003 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luciana   Click Here to Email Luciana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started to drink this tea (1 l. per day)in May and noticed my skin is better,maybe it's also due to the fact I drink more. But I noticed that I have pain in my knees since then...is it a coincidence? I checked the names of the plants and normally they shouldn't affect the articulations...on the contrary, some of them help in cases of rheumatism. Has anyone felt something similar? I'll go on drinking more, but I've cut down the amount of tea to see if it makes a change.
Best regards,
Luciana

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Pat
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posted July 28, 2003 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pat   Click Here to Email Pat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Luciana

can't remember suffering from anything like pain in joints, bones or muscles as you describe it...

As some of the herbs the mix contains are poisonous make sure you follow the correct water/herb ratio. Don't boil the herb/water mix and leave the herbs to infuse no longer than recommended.

hope it'll do you good, too!
Patrik - Zurich - Switzerland

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Luciana
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posted July 29, 2003 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luciana   Click Here to Email Luciana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pat,

Thanks for the answer. Yes I followed the mixture (without the poisonous one) as it was written in the Topsi post or in the Maria Trében's book, but at the shop they adviced me to start with one litre per day because I told them I was someone who didn't drink very much. Now I force myself to drink more water and just add 1/2 liter of tea per day for the moment...
I let you know If there is any change about the pain in my knees after a few weeks.

Are you still drinking it? And what about the diet you followed...do you still avoid certain kind of food? I think you're perfectly right if it works for your skin.

Take care and best wishes,

Luciana

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Sati
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posted September 02, 2003 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sati   Click Here to Email Sati     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I am a new member to this site, although i read all the post posted from time to time. Now in regards to Herbal Tea mixture, i located a book in library by Maria Treben, Health Through God's Pharmacy. It has recipe for PSORIASIS.Tea mixture she said in her book is as:
30gm Willow bark
40gm Goat's Beard
30gm Greater Celandine
50gm Stinging Nettle
20gm Walnut husks
10gm Oak bark
30gm Speedwell
20gm Fumitory
30gm Calendula
20gm Yarrow
1 heaped teaspoonful of this mixture per cup of boiling water is used and infused for 3 minutes. If possible freshly picked herbs should be used. 11/2 to 2 litres of this tea are sipped throughout the day.

I hope it helps if some one wants to give a try.

regards

Sati

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