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wva
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posted November 07, 2005 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all. I have a question about itching eyelids. I have been experiencing this for quite some time and daily in the past few months. I don't even know when it began. But, I have a problem with my eyelids itching on the inside corners and I have a little white bump there on both eyes that has been there for as long as I can remember. It itches under the eyelid a lot especially when I first wake up in the mornings. Does anyone else experience this? I know it is not as serious as the other stuff people on here go through. But, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

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Peachfuzz
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posted November 08, 2005 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peachfuzz   Click Here to Email Peachfuzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi There
I too have suffered with itchy eyes around my tear ducts and little white lumps on the skin nearby - it only really started since I began wearing contact lenses about a year ago so I put it down to the solutions and eye drops I use - however I did notice that I have developed a number of fine long hairs on the small bit of skin by the tear duct the ends of which were touching the tear ducts and since I have been plucking them out (painful to start with and eyewatering) they have stopped itching so I'm not sure if it's psychological or whether that was actually the cause?

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wva
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posted November 08, 2005 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. Interesting. I don't wear contact lenses or use eye drops of any kind. There are not any hairs at all where the white lumps are. I even thought it might be some kind of weird allergy thing. At least I know that someone out there has the same kind of problem. The itching at the eyelids happense the worst when I first wake up in the morning but, it continues throughout the day, some days worse and some days not so much. Thanks for your response.

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posted November 08, 2005 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauline5   Click Here to Email pauline5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I don't have the white lumps, but yes I get very itchy around my eyelids...

I also get very dry eyes, and sensitive to the light.

I saw an Opthamologist, and he said that I have BLEPHARITIS, which is an inflammation of the eyelids...and like dandruff of the eyelids, and can develop into conjunctivitis.
http://www.stlukeseye.com/Conditions/Blepharitis.asp

This site might give you some more information which matches your eyelid symptoms...

Hope this helps somewhat
Pauline

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wva
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posted November 10, 2005 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I wonder if our ich has anything to do with some of us developing that. I may go to the eye dr and ask them if it is possible that I have that...blepharitis. The little white bump at the inside corner of both eyelids is only noticable to me. But, my eyelids do get dry and itchy. I don't get build up of anything. But, at least I have something to go on and see if that is what I have. So, thanks! One question...how did the dr treat the problem? Maybe with eyedrops? Thanks again!!

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posted November 10, 2005 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauline5   Click Here to Email pauline5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pauline5:
They say that the Blepharitis is a hiegene problem...and that with our flaking skin, it is more important than normal to bathe our eyelids...

so I bought an eye-bath, and I bought from the chemist a bottle of Saline, which is used to clean contact lenses...
Just pour some into the eye-bath and hold it against your eye for quite a few minutes, and wipe it clean with makeup pad...

And I also use Celufresh single sachets of eyedrop...I use that during the day for as many times as my eyes need it...for DRY EYE...

and at Night I use CeluVISC, which is a double thicknes dose of the Celufresh so it gets you through the sleeping hours...but I do often wake up and put another lot in...just keep them by your bedside table...
Also keep a box of Celufresh in your handbag so you can use them throughout the day...

WARNING THOUGH...never use Celuvisc during the day, as they make your eyes blurry, and dangerous for driving a car...

Since I started doing the eyebaths, I don't get the styes anymore...and much less conjunctivitis too...

I only developed this problem about 4 years ago...more or less during the time I have been studying/doing lots of reading.
But when I went to the specialist they said I had very mild ectropion which surprised me...didn't know it was possible with EHK...BUT MY EYES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY RED IN THE LOWER LID...

Hope this helps some more...

OH I FORGOT ONE MORE THING...
Normal antibiotic eyedrops to treat Conjunctivitis no longer work on me...they make my eyes very painful...and the Derms say that I have had somany treatments over the years that I have become desensitised to them...so that is why I now opt for the natural stuff...less chemicals...

so guys, be careful using to many of these things, go for the most natural product you can find...
Pauline.


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Peachfuzz
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posted November 11, 2005 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peachfuzz   Click Here to Email Peachfuzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to get terrible conjunctivitis as a kid which the doctor gave me eyedrops for - I've only just remembered as I've not had it for about the last 20 years!

However I do also get very dry and flaky eyelids all the time which can irritate my eyes when the flakes get caught in my eyelashes - the only way I can deal with it is to cleanse my eyes really well in the mornings and ensure I have applied plenty of Oilatum (Junior) cream or white parafin ointment (a bit like vaseline)if it's really bad - I also sometimes use a clear mascara to help clear my eyelashes from flakes as I get a terrible build up at the base of my eyelashes.

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wva
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posted November 12, 2005 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again for all the info. I don't recall ever having this problem before. Maybe all of the eye makeup that I wear half of the time has contributed to it. Who knows! I'm so glad to find people that relate with me and can empathize when I have issues, especially ich issues. I had someone ask me today if I was sunburned. I just laughed and said no, I have a genetic skin disorder. Of course, I thought....I live in Michigan and it is fall time....sunburn!! Ha! Then she said she thought maybe I went to the tanning beds. I laughed and said if I did and got myself burnt up like this then I wud have to be nuts! But, she was pretty nice about it though. Anyway, thanks for the eyelid info.

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pauline5
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posted November 12, 2005 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauline5   Click Here to Email pauline5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually wva!!!

Now you mention it...I used to wear alot of eye makeup when I was youngER...
And about 10 years ago I started getting very bad styes...I have been afraid to wear makeup ever since...
And I am so used to going ala-naturale that I don't care much for it now anyway...

But yes, I wonder if the eyeliner, and mascaras have been the culprit...my eyes have never been the same since...

I never had any eye problems until I turned about 37yrs...AND THAT IS ONLY 4 YEARS AGO...

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Linda Evich
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posted November 17, 2005 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Evich   Click Here to Email Linda Evich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi WVA - I have had sensitive eyes forever. I used to get styes regularly when I was a little girl. The eyelash roots would get infected and my mom would pluck the eyelashes out in and around the stye and then let it heal.

When I started using makeup (I guess this won't apply to the guys unless they are ala Michael Jackson Linda, shame on you! Anyhow, I'd have to replace my makeup about once a month because I've always had a very high bacteria count with EHK. A few years ago, we had a family tragedy and I spent weeks in tears off and on. I stopped using makeup at that time since I kept crying it off anyway. I have not had any styes since, and I find I feel better about my looks, too. I found that as I get older, makeup only makes the fact that I have a skin condition much more evident. I spend the extra time cleansing and moisturizing my skin. Actually, my husband probably would say I'm abit neurotic about keeping the flakiness at bay. But I do use eye drops and gel liberally and the redness has diminished a great deal. I don't get the white spots you were describing...God Bless

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wva
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posted November 17, 2005 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again I guess I'm reminded to practice what I preach to my beautiful little six year old daughter that you don't need makeup to be pretty.(God knows I prefer it for myself!) But, my daughter always says mommy you are pretty without it. The love of your own child can be so darn cute! I don't wear face makeup, never could because it made my skin look bad on my face and that is the one place that looks the best of my skin disorder. But, I'm going to try to cut back on eye makeup from daily to only occasionally and maybe special occasions, and replace it more often instead of once every six months or so for when I do use it. Thanks again for the advice that only someone with our skin disorder or at least close to it could truly understand! God bless!

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posted December 07, 2005 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone. I just went to the eye dr yesterday and I was told that I do have blepharitis. He had never seen anyone with ich before. He said the cases of it that he saw were people that had skin disorders in the psoriasis family. I was told a few years ago that I have two skin disorders. But, I did not find out what the second disorder is because the focus was more on my dominant disorder which of course is the ich. Anyway, the way this dr explained the blepharitis is that it is not an infection of the eyes so there is no need to worry about throwing out my eye makeup that I just bought. He said it is more of an ongoing condition that flairs up when the skin is doing worse and that I should first use the RX that he gave me which has steroids in it and then I need to use baby soap like Baby Magic mixed with two parts water and one part Baby Magic and rub the eyelids gently with a q-tip once a day. I just want to say thanks to everyone that posted.

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posted January 08, 2006 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRat   Click Here to Email GymRat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My eyelids get very itchy. I have KID Ich. I have no eyelashes/eyebrows, so I don;t wear make-up. My eyes get so dry while I am sleeping that they hurt terribly until I put moisturizing drops in them. For a devil of an itch, the only thing I have found that works instantly is Advil. Strange, huh? I am going to ask my eye doctor about blepharitis, too.

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posted January 08, 2006 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darwinsmom   Click Here to Email Darwinsmom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both my son and I have KFSD, and the biggest problem we face affects our eyes. It took a long time for my doctor to figure out that my dry, itchy eyes was caused by more than just chronic keratitis. The chronic keratitis can cause the development of something called concretions - tiny grains of calcium and dead skin cells that build up in the tissue of my upper eyelids. Over time these work their way to the surface of my lids and when they break through they can track around on the surface causing scratches on the cornea. These scratches cause heavy tearing and sharp pain and they can become infected. My upper lids have been known to actually stick to the surface of my eye, resulting in something called epitheal flaps.

The first thing my doctor tried was Restasis, back during the clinical trials. They didn't help me much but I wanted to mention the drops here anyway. It is always possible that something that didn't help me can help others, and vice-versa. Many forms of ichthyosis can cause chronic keratitis and even these concretions. They are readily visible on examination, but doctors must actually look for them. They readily take up that yellow stain ophthalmologists use, but the eyelid must be everted (flipped up to expose the subtarsal conjunctiva) for them to be seem. I've seen a few posts where people mention waking up with a foreign body sensation in their eyes, and they can't tolerate light or even keep their eyes open. That is exactly what it feels like when concretions emerge from the underside of the eyelid and cause scratches. It can also feel very itchy as the concretions are growing in the skin and especially when they start working their way to the surface.

I'm not trying to say that everyone who has an ichthyosiform disorder and experiences itchy eyes or the sensation of something in the eye has concretions. My son used to rub his eyes like mad when he woke up to the eye pain and itching, and sometimes he would end up with an eyelash in his eye. On several occasions it was so bad for him that we went to the doctor. Twice they found lashes in his eye but two or three times they couldn't see anything. I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes we need to gently "nudge" our doctors to look for something beyond what they first assume.

I've been asking my ophthalmologist or one of his residents or fellows to write an article about concretions and chronic keratitis so we can get the word out. Here's hoping an article will eventually be published. The good news about concretions is that they can be removed easily. Mine are removed by scraping the surface of the underside of the lid with a platinum spatula, and by using a needle to "fish" out the ones that are visible but are just under the surface. My eyes are frozen at the time this is done and it is still a little freaky the first time it is done, but once a patient has experienced relief from the procedure it is much less weird the second time around.

I hope this helps someone. Maybe not wva, but someone! For three years I was going to an eye specialist because of corneal abrasions, ulcers, and epitheleal flaps. Not once did he evert my upper lids. Every time I saw him (at one point when I had ulcers I saw him every day for 3 months!) he asked me if I was putting something in my eyes. He figured I was wearing those colored contacts or maybe the ones that look like reptile eyes, perhaps even using the freezing drops that eye doctors use to make the patient more comfortable during an exam. Those drops, called Alcaine (proparacaine hydrochloride), can cause real problems with the cornea if they are used without a doctor's supervision, and they are a diagnostic tool not a treatment. As great as the relief is from those drops, I hope no one would ever use them for relief from eye pain (they freeze the eyelids slightly too. They are toxic to the eye!

If anyone has questions about my experiences with my eyes and the concretions I'd be happy to exchange info. Doctors are taught in med school to think horses, not zebraswhen they hear hoof beats. My eye specialist is one of those rare ones who, once he's looked for horses for a reasonable time, starts looking for anything else that might be the cause.

I hope this helps someone!

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posted January 19, 2006 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wva   Click Here to Email wva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all. It's me (WVA) and I just wanted to let you know that when I saw my dermatologist in December he said blepharitis is just a fancy name for dry skin around the eyelids and that anyone with seriously dry skin can be diagnosed with it. The winter weather just makes it worse around the eyelids and everywhere for people with ich or psoriasis or other really dry skin disorders. But, I'm thankful that it is not anything too serious that I can't deal with it. JUst wanted to share what I've been told. God bless!!

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posted February 22, 2006 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rdodge   Click Here to Email rdodge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: Itchy Eyelids

I just started getting the itchy eyelid thing about a year ago. For me two things changed in my life: (1-We bought a cat, maybe it's an allergy thing, but I love her so much and she snuggles with me every night) (2-We had some major water damage, and have been struggling for almost 1 1/2 years to fix things ourselves, there has been a lot of mold, dust and construction going on) I think for me it's one of the two things going on.

I also think stress can cause such things. A few years back when I was really stressed about some life issues and my best friend; I started itching uncontrollably all over. Once the stress was gone so was the itching.

When it's tied to a specific part of your body, I would say alergy of some sort or an eye condition.


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Originally posted by wva:
Hi all. I have a question about itching eyelids. I have been experiencing this for quite some time and daily in the past few months. I don't even know when it began. But, I have a problem with my eyelids itching on the inside corners and I have a little white bump there on both eyes that has been there for as long as I can remember. It itches under the eyelid a lot especially when I first wake up in the mornings. Does anyone else experience this? I know it is not as serious as the other stuff people on here go through. But, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

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posted December 15, 2007 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mandigo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peachfuzz:
Hi There
I too have suffered with itchy eyes around my tear ducts and little white lumps on the skin nearby - it only really started since I began wearing contact lenses about a year ago so I put it down to the solutions and eye drops I use - however I did notice that I have developed a number of fine long hairs on the small bit of skin by the tear duct the ends of which were touching the tear ducts and since I have been plucking them out (painful to start with and eyewatering) they have stopped itching so I'm not sure if it's psychological or whether that was actually the cause?


you may have a condition called Trichiasis.
here's the link: http://www.eyemdlink.com/Condition.asp?ConditionID=449

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